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1xhj8kb">.css-1xhj8kb{-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-thickness:0.0625rem;text-decoration-color:inherit;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:inherit;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;word-break:break-word;border-bottom:0.0625rem solid #6F6F6F;}.css-1xhj8kb:hover{color:#595959;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;}</style><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kaliuchis/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://www.instagram.com/kaliuchis/" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="Kali Uchis" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">Kali Uchis</a> is in her bedroom, leaning against the bed, taking a moment to say goodbye to her “man,” rapper <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dontoliver/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://www.instagram.com/dontoliver/" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="Don Toliver" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">Don Toliver</a>, before settling in. “I want to get comfortable,” she explains, “because I have a lot to say.” And then it’s just us chicas.</p><section data-embed="body-image" data-lazy-id="P0-7" data-node-id="1" class="embed"><style data-emotion="css 1rhobw7">.css-1rhobw7{--data-embed-display:flex;-webkit-align-items:center;-webkit-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-webkit-box;display:-webkit-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-bottom:0.9375rem;}@media(min-width: 20rem){.css-1rhobw7{clear:both;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:100%;}}@media(min-width: 30rem){.css-1rhobw7{clear:both;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:100%;}}@media(min-width: 40.625rem){.css-1rhobw7{width:70%;margin-left:1rem;margin-right:0rem;float:right;clear:right;}}@media(min-width: 48rem){.css-1rhobw7{width:70%;margin-left:1rem;margin-right:0rem;float:right;clear:right;}}@media(min-width: 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ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;word-break:break-word;display:inline-block;border-bottom:0.0625rem solid #6F6F6F;padding:0.625rem 1.25rem;background-color:#DA8EEA;width:auto;font-family:RundDisplay,RundDisplay-weightbold-upcase-roboto,RundDisplay-weightbold-upcase-local,Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif;text-transform:uppercase;margin-bottom:0.625rem;margin-top:0.625rem;padding-bottom:0.8rem;padding-left:1.3125rem;padding-right:1.3125rem;padding-top:0.76rem;font-size:0.75rem;line-height:1;font-weight:bold;border-radius:50rem;letter-spacing:0.03rem;}.css-w5jwlb:hover{color:#fff;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;background-color:#000000;}.css-w5jwlb:focus-visible{outline-color:body-cta-btn-link-focus;}</style><a href="https://shop.cosmopolitan.com/cosmopolitan-all-access-membership-1.html?cds_tracking_code=cosengredirect" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://shop.cosmopolitan.com/cosmopolitan-all-access-membership-1.html?cds_tracking_code=cosengredirect" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="GET THE MAG" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" class="body-btn-link css-w5jwlb e1k3dme10">GET THE MAG</a></div></div></div></div></section><style data-emotion="css 1nd4gv7">.css-1nd4gv7{font-size:1.1875rem;line-height:1.6;font-family:Charter,Charter-roboto,Charter-local,Georgia,Times,Serif;}.css-1nd4gv7 em{font-style:italic;font-family:Charter,Charter-styleitalic-roboto,Charter-styleitalic-local,Georgia,Times,Serif;}.css-1nd4gv7 strong{font-family:Charter,Charter-weightbold-roboto,Charter-weightbold-local,Georgia,Times,Serif;font-weight:bold;}</style><p data-journey-content="true" data-node-id="2" class="css-1nd4gv7 e1k3dme10">Our big topic of conversation: the way Kali, a Colombian American singer-songwriter, was labeled a “niche artist” for much of her early career. Sure, she came up through R&amp;B, her music’s airy tones and deep basses, her voice’s lower notes and whistle tones, enough to make listeners feel like they’re floating. But her style wasn’t ever <em>only</em> that. It also moved the genre forward with the use of synthesizers, unexpected instruments like harps, and voice-layering and reverb that make it sound like an entire choir is performing instead of just her. </p><p data-journey-content="true" data-node-id="3" class="css-1nd4gv7 e1k3dme10"><strong></strong>Her real fans—who now number in the tens of millions—knew the “niche” thing was BS, of course. They’ve always loved her for her sultry voice and many collabs with artists like Kaytranada (their song <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/41SwdQIX8Hy2u6fuEDgvWr?si=69fedbdd4c394739" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://open.spotify.com/track/41SwdQIX8Hy2u6fuEDgvWr?si=69fedbdd4c394739" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="“10%”" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">“10%”</a> won a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86ihNU_jc-8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86ihNU_jc-8" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="Best Dance Recording Grammy" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">Best Dance Recording Grammy</a>). And those who weren’t already devoted came fully on board after <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6tDDoYIxWvMLTdKpjFkc1B?si=1aa9345412134431" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://open.spotify.com/track/6tDDoYIxWvMLTdKpjFkc1B?si=1aa9345412134431" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="“Telepatía,”" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">“Telepatía,”</a> Kali’s 2020 hit single that proved she could do it all in two different languages—Spanish and English—at the same time.</p><section data-embed="loop" data-lazy-id="P0-8" data-node-id="4" class="embed"><style data-emotion="css 1virogq">.css-1virogq{margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:100%;}@media(min-width: 20rem){.css-1virogq{margin:auto calc(50% - 50vw) 0.9375rem;width:100vw;}}@media(min-width: 30rem){.css-1virogq{margin:auto calc(50% - 50vw) 0.9375rem;width:100vw;}}@media(min-width: 40.625rem){.css-1virogq{margin:auto calc(50% - 50vw) 0.9375rem;width:100vw;}}@media(min-width: 48rem){.css-1virogq{margin:auto calc(50% - 50vw) 0.9375rem;width:100vw;}}@media(min-width: 64rem){.css-1virogq{margin:auto calc(50% - 50vw) 0.9375rem;width:100vw;}}@media(min-width: 73.75rem){.css-1virogq{margin:auto calc(50% - 50vw) 0.9375rem;width:100vw;}}@media(min-width: 75rem){.css-1virogq{margin:auto calc(50% - 50vw) 0.9375rem;width:100vw;}}@media(min-width: 90rem){.css-1virogq{margin:auto calc(50% - 50vw) 0.9375rem;width:100vw;}}</style><div class="css-1virogq ef2zpa80"><style data-emotion="css 1e3dj7m">.css-1e3dj7m{display:-webkit-box;display:-webkit-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-webkit-flex-direction:row-reverse;-ms-flex-direction:row-reverse;flex-direction:row-reverse;-webkit-align-items:flex-end;-webkit-box-align:flex-end;-ms-flex-align:flex-end;align-items:flex-end;position:relative;width:100%;margin-bottom:0.9375rem;width:100%;}.css-1e3dj7m img.hidden{visibility:hidden;opacity:0;-webkit-transition:visibility 0s .3s,opacity .3s linear;transition:visibility 0s .3s,opacity .3s linear;}</style><div class="align-center size-large embed ef2zpa81 css-1e3dj7m eu8kek24"><style data-emotion="css 5mi43p">.css-5mi43p{margin-bottom:0.9375rem;--aspect-ratio:100%;width:100%;}</style><div class="__resp-container css-5mi43p e6inl0f0"><img src="https://media.hearstapps.com/loop/kali-loop-update-65b7ee2f1c822.mp4/poster.jpg" alt="Image no longer available" title="Image no longer available" width="100%" height="auto" decoding="async" fetchPriority="high"/></div></div></div></section><p data-journey-content="true" data-node-id="5" class="css-1nd4gv7 e1k3dme10">“What is authentic to me is to express all the different pieces of myself and all the genres that I love, the music that I love, and the culture that I love,” she says. That’s evident on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5ycn8M0WNGedabDuaH9mQT?si=dc173e00b9b44bc9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://open.spotify.com/track/5ycn8M0WNGedabDuaH9mQT?si=dc173e00b9b44bc9" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="“Labios Mordidos,”" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">“Labios Mordidos,”</a> the single she released earlier this year with fellow Colombian superstar <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/790FomKkXshlbRYZFtlgla?si=2Au71y8YTjqrbOdkSdbxtg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://open.spotify.com/artist/790FomKkXshlbRYZFtlgla?si=2Au71y8YTjqrbOdkSdbxtg" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="Karol G" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">Karol G</a>. The can’t-help-but-move-your-hips-to-it pop banger has already gained 54 million combined streams on YouTube and Spotify, giving Kali serious bragging rights. Adding to those rights: two songs in the <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX7iB3RCnBnN4?si=6f5f3a942d7448b2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX7iB3RCnBnN4?si=6f5f3a942d7448b2" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="Spotify Billions Club" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">Spotify Billions Club</a>, which, let’s face it, most artists have a hard time accomplishing in one language.</p><style data-emotion="css 1v2eakg">.css-1v2eakg{margin-bottom:0.9375rem;position:relative;}.css-1v2eakg.aspect-ratio-1x1{margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:100%;}@media(min-width: 48rem){.css-1v2eakg.aspect-ratio-1x1{width:90%;}}.css-1v2eakg.aspect-ratio-9x16{margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:95%;}@media(min-width: 30rem){.css-1v2eakg.aspect-ratio-9x16{width:75%;}}@media(min-width: 40.625rem){.css-1v2eakg.aspect-ratio-9x16{width:65%;}}</style><div data-node-id="6" data-embed="video" class="embed css-1v2eakg e1oql1660"><style data-emotion="css 1ui7hop">.css-1ui7hop{margin-bottom:0.9375rem;--aspect-ratio:56.25%;}</style><div class="__resp-container css-1ui7hop e6inl0f0"><style data-emotion="css 1i4aqrd">.css-1i4aqrd{margin-bottom:0.9375rem;width:100%;height:100%;}.css-1i4aqrd .glimmerPlayer{z-index:10;}.css-1i4aqrd .vjs-wrapper .vjs-filmstrip{z-index:20;}.css-1i4aqrd .glimmerPlayer.glimmer-sticky{z-index:20;}.css-1i4aqrd .__resp-container{height:auto;}</style><div data-embed="embed-video" class="video-player css-1i4aqrd ez4n76s0"><style data-emotion="css jc1l6v">.css-jc1l6v{height:100%;width:100%;position:relative;z-index:10;visibility:visible;overflow:hidden;}</style><div data-position="4" data-dock="true" data-disable-ads="false" data-sticky="false" data-muted="true" class=" css-jc1l6v e18imbuu4"><style data-emotion="css 1ea29xt">.css-1ea29xt{background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4);border:.1875rem solid white;border-radius:50%;color:#fff;cursor:pointer;height:3.75rem;left:50%;position:absolute;top:50%;-webkit-transform:translate(-50%,-50%);-moz-transform:translate(-50%,-50%);-ms-transform:translate(-50%,-50%);transform:translate(-50%,-50%);-webkit-transition:all 0.4s;transition:all 0.4s;width:3.75rem;z-index:1;}.e18imbuu4:hover .css-1ea29xt{background-color:rgba(33, 150, 245, 0.8);color:#ffffff;}@media(min-width: 48rem){.css-1ea29xt{height:5.625rem;width:5.625rem;border:.28125rem solid white;}}</style><button aria-label="Play Video" class="css-1ea29xt e18imbuu0"><style data-emotion="css 1nixqio">.css-1nixqio{height:1.4rem;vertical-align:middle;width:1.45rem;}@media(min-width: 48rem){.css-1nixqio{width:2.3125rem;height:3rem;}}</style><img data-dynamic-svg="true" src="/_assets/design-tokens/fre/static/icons/play.db7c035.svg?primary=%2523ffffff" loading="lazy" data-testid="dynamic-svg-base" height="24" width="24" alt="Play Icon" role="img" title="Play" class="css-1nixqio e18imbuu1"/></button><style data-emotion="css 157wciq">.css-157wciq{width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;cursor:pointer;}</style><style data-emotion="css g939jb">.css-g939jb{width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;cursor:pointer;}</style><img alt="preview for Kali Uchis On Artist Collabs and Least Favorite Performances | The Breakdown | Cosmopolitan" title="Video player poster image" loading="lazy" width="2000" height="1000" decoding="async" data-nimg="1" style="color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;" sizes="100vw" srcset="https://hips.hearstapps.com/vidthumb/images/kali-breakdown-thumb-65bab37b7cc01.jpg?crop=1.00xw:1.00xh;0,0&amp;resize=640:* 640w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/vidthumb/images/kali-breakdown-thumb-65bab37b7cc01.jpg?crop=1.00xw:1.00xh;0,0&amp;resize=980:* 980w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/vidthumb/images/kali-breakdown-thumb-65bab37b7cc01.jpg?crop=1.00xw:1.00xh;0,0&amp;resize=1024:* 1120w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/vidthumb/images/kali-breakdown-thumb-65bab37b7cc01.jpg?crop=1.00xw:1.00xh;0,0&amp;resize=1120:* 1200w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/vidthumb/images/kali-breakdown-thumb-65bab37b7cc01.jpg?crop=1.00xw:1.00xh;0,0&amp;resize=1200:* 1920w" src="https://hips.hearstapps.com/vidthumb/images/kali-breakdown-thumb-65bab37b7cc01.jpg?crop=1.00xw:1.00xh;0,0&amp;resize=1200:*" class="e18imbuu3 css-g939jb ewdma7v0"/></div></div></div></div><p data-journey-content="true" data-node-id="7" class="css-1nd4gv7 e1k3dme10">Other people in Kali’s position might use this success as a reason to take it easy. Kali used it as a chance to do something different (yet again) with her fourth album, <em><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/5U20AVSsUvycGtWip4XQfo?si=OHWPovP7TEa1Wu5GtMqUBg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://open.spotify.com/album/5U20AVSsUvycGtWip4XQfo?si=OHWPovP7TEa1Wu5GtMqUBg" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="Orquídeas" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">Orquídeas</a></em> (out now). On <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/20LZsv2s3dXvoBuPUEOlAv?si=8e0b0f62c88b4aa0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://open.spotify.com/track/20LZsv2s3dXvoBuPUEOlAv?si=8e0b0f62c88b4aa0" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="“Muñekita,”" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">“Muñekita,”</a> she pays homage to Dominican dancehall music by creating the ultimate ass-shaking song. Two tracks later, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/1NEBuFp0BJMikgXJI9VVab?si=d56f94d0b6bf46db" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://open.spotify.com/track/1NEBuFp0BJMikgXJI9VVab?si=d56f94d0b6bf46db" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="“Te Mata”" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">“Te Mata”</a> shows her taking on a Spanish bolero that feels a lot like a powerful breakup tango (if such a thing existed, which it does now, thanks to Kali).</p><section data-embed="pullquote" data-lazy-id="P0-9" data-node-id="8" class="embed"><style data-emotion="css 4cfsk4">.css-4cfsk4{margin:0rem;padding-bottom:0.9375rem;padding-top:0.9375rem;text-align:center;}@media(max-width: 64rem){.css-4cfsk4{padding:1.25rem;}}@media(min-width: 48rem){.css-4cfsk4{padding:1.25rem 3rem;}}</style><blockquote class="css-4cfsk4 e1pe3zr91"><span aria-hidden="true" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotion="css 12ra1tr">.css-12ra1tr{font-family:RundDisplayLight,RundDisplayLight-roboto,RundDisplayLight-local,Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif;font-size:1.625rem;line-height:1.2;margin:0rem;}@media(max-width: 64rem){.css-12ra1tr{font-size:2.625rem;line-height:1.1;}}@media(min-width: 48rem){.css-12ra1tr{font-size:3.25rem;line-height:1.1;}}@media(min-width: 64rem){.css-12ra1tr{font-size:3.375rem;line-height:1.1;}}.css-12ra1tr b,.css-12ra1tr strong{font-family:inherit;font-weight:bold;}.css-12ra1tr em,.css-12ra1tr i{font-style:italic;font-family:inherit;}</style><blockquote class="css-12ra1tr e1pe3zr90">“It’s really, really vulnerable. It’s the most existential I’ve ever been.”</blockquote><span aria-hidden="true" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></blockquote></section><p data-journey-content="true" data-node-id="9" class="css-1nd4gv7 e1k3dme10">This time around, <em>everyone</em> is taking notice of how very non-niche she is. Although not always in a positive way: Recent Instagram comments from older fans implore her to “go back to her old sound.” It’s criticism Kali has heard before, and she’s dealt with worse through years of navigating the industry as a crossover artist. Glaringly, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy0Xn0JzKA4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy0Xn0JzKA4" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="there was the infamous 2021 interview" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">there was the infamous 2021 interview</a> in which a reporter told Kali he knew “all about that Spanglish” because of his Mexican husband and then proceeded to mispronounce the name of one of her songs. <strong></strong></p><section data-embed="body-image" data-lazy-id="P0-10" data-node-id="10" class="embed"><style data-emotion="css 1bymmsd">.css-1bymmsd{--data-embed-display:flex;-webkit-align-items:center;-webkit-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;clear:both;display:-webkit-box;display:-webkit-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-bottom:0.9375rem;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:100%;}@media(min-width: 20rem){.css-1bymmsd{width:100%;margin:0 auto 0.9375rem;}}@media(min-width: 30rem){.css-1bymmsd{width:100%;margin:0 auto 0.9375rem;}}@media(min-width: 40.625rem){.css-1bymmsd{width:100%;margin:0 auto 0.9375rem;}}@media(min-width: 48rem){.css-1bymmsd{width:100%;margin:0 auto 0.9375rem;}}@media(min-width: 64rem){.css-1bymmsd{width:100%;margin:0 auto 0.9375rem;}}@media(min-width: 73.75rem){.css-1bymmsd{width:100%;margin:0 auto 0.9375rem;}}@media(min-width: 75rem){.css-1bymmsd{width:100%;margin:0 auto 0.9375rem;}}@media(min-width: 90rem){.css-1bymmsd{width:100%;margin:0 auto 0.9375rem;}}.css-1bymmsd a span{right:1rem;}.css-1bymmsd.size-screenheight img{width:auto;height:85vh;}.css-1bymmsd a{display:-webkit-inline-box;display:-webkit-inline-flex;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;position:var(--position, relative);}.css-1bymmsd img:not(.e2ttnr31){display:block;width:100%;height:auto;-webkit-align-self:flex-start;-ms-flex-item-align:flex-start;align-self:flex-start;}</style><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1bymmsd ens2m4q4"><div class="css-uwraif ens2m4q3"><img alt="kali" title="kali" loading="lazy" width="1067" height="1600" decoding="async" data-nimg="1" style="color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;" sizes="100vw" srcset="https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/cos030124wellcoverstory-004-65b1e5460e0c5.png?resize=640:* 640w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/cos030124wellcoverstory-004-65b1e5460e0c5.png?resize=768:* 980w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/cos030124wellcoverstory-004-65b1e5460e0c5.png?resize=980:* 1120w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/cos030124wellcoverstory-004-65b1e5460e0c5.png?resize=980:* 1200w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/cos030124wellcoverstory-004-65b1e5460e0c5.png?resize=980:* 1920w" src="https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/cos030124wellcoverstory-004-65b1e5460e0c5.png?resize=980:*" class="css-0 ewdma7v0"/><style data-emotion="css swqnqv">@media(min-width: 20rem){.css-swqnqv{padding-left:0rem;}}@media(min-width: 30rem){.css-swqnqv{padding-left:0rem;}}@media(min-width: 40.625rem){.css-swqnqv{padding-left:0rem;}}@media(min-width: 48rem){.css-swqnqv{padding-left:0rem;}}@media(min-width: 64rem){.css-swqnqv{padding-left:0rem;}}@media(min-width: 73.75rem){.css-swqnqv{padding-left:0rem;}}@media(min-width: 75rem){.css-swqnqv{padding-left:0rem;}}@media(min-width: 90rem){.css-swqnqv{padding-left:0rem;}}</style><div class="css-swqnqv ens2m4q2"><style data-emotion="css 1am3yn9">.css-1am3yn9{padding-left:0rem;line-height:1;}</style><figcaption class="css-1am3yn9 e14ghf9c0"><style data-emotion="css ohvpl5">.css-ohvpl5{padding-right:0.3125rem;color:#6F6F6F;font-size:0.70028rem;line-height:1.2;font-family:RundDisplayLight,RundDisplayLight-roboto,RundDisplayLight-local,Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif;letter-spacing:0rem;}</style><span class="css-ohvpl5 eewc14j2">chrisean rose</span></figcaption><div class="css-a3hvk1 ens2m4q1"><em><a href="https://thefrankieshop.com/?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAtt2tBhBDEiwALZuhAHEiY1fMpdI_bbJHi8UxIW2KUXNCE6ihZBPdHG3rFgyIFgj9NObtXRoCCSEQAvD_BwE" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://thefrankieshop.com/?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAtt2tBhBDEiwALZuhAHEiY1fMpdI_bbJHi8UxIW2KUXNCE6ihZBPdHG3rFgyIFgj9NObtXRoCCSEQAvD_BwE" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="The Frankie Shop" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">The Frankie Shop</a> </em><em>coat. <a href="https://www.mattiacielo.com/" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://www.mattiacielo.com/" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="Mattia Cielo" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">Mattia Cielo</a> </em><em>earrings.</em></div></div></div></div></section><p data-journey-content="true" data-node-id="11" class="css-1nd4gv7 e1k3dme10"><strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p data-journey-content="true" data-node-id="12" class="css-1nd4gv7 e1k3dme10">“It was a microaggression. So many people told me I handled that really well. Yes, it was annoying, but it almost didn’t affect me because I’m so used to it,” she says now, noting all the times her family has been discriminated against and how she has always felt both a bit too American in Colombia and too Colombian in the United States. “He didn’t have ill will or anything,” she continues. “He was just attempting to bridge the gap between him and I. It’s just very strange to have your ethnicity, essentially, be a genre.” </p><p data-journey-content="true" data-node-id="13" class="css-1nd4gv7 e1k3dme10">It does grate on her, she says, but she sees situations like this as a reminder of her responsibility to build bridges of her own, particularly by working with more artists and giving them the chance to shine in new and exciting ways. Case in point: her collaboration with Mexican singer <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/12GqGscKJx3aE4t07u7eVZ?si=rr0beujRQ9G3h9dOmUc46Q" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://open.spotify.com/artist/12GqGscKJx3aE4t07u7eVZ?si=rr0beujRQ9G3h9dOmUc46Q" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="Peso Pluma" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">Peso Pluma</a>, who, when given various tracks to choose from on <em>Orquídeas</em>, decided to do something other than his usual regional Mexican sound and chose <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/6XaJfhwof7qIgbbXO5tIQI?si=d0ab8b0f8e3e4ee8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://open.spotify.com/track/6XaJfhwof7qIgbbXO5tIQI?si=d0ab8b0f8e3e4ee8" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="“Igual Que un Ángel,”" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">“Igual Que un Ángel,”</a> a more pop and R&amp;B track, instead.</p><section data-embed="body-image" data-lazy-id="P0-11" data-node-id="14" class="embed"><style data-emotion="css 1ojlter">.css-1ojlter{--data-embed-display:flex;-webkit-align-items:center;-webkit-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;clear:both;display:-webkit-box;display:-webkit-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-bottom:0.9375rem;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:100%;}@media(min-width: 20rem){.css-1ojlter{margin:auto calc(50% - 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She’s already started work on her fifth and most “sad girl” album. “There’s gonna be no collaborations,” she says. “I want to do a whole album that’s just really, really vulnerable. It’s the most existential I’ve ever been.” This dovetails with a new vibe I detect as she gives me an unexpected tour of her house. There’s something about Kali that I wish I could bottle up and keep for myself: a sense of peace.</p><section data-embed="body-image" data-lazy-id="P0-12" data-node-id="18" class="embed"><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1bymmsd ens2m4q4"><div class="css-uwraif ens2m4q3"><img alt="kali" title="kali" loading="lazy" width="1311" height="1966" decoding="async" data-nimg="1" style="color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;" sizes="100vw" srcset="https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/3kali-look-01-1487-pr2-65b3db81ae202.png?resize=640:* 640w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/3kali-look-01-1487-pr2-65b3db81ae202.png?resize=768:* 980w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/3kali-look-01-1487-pr2-65b3db81ae202.png?resize=980:* 1120w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/3kali-look-01-1487-pr2-65b3db81ae202.png?resize=980:* 1200w, https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/3kali-look-01-1487-pr2-65b3db81ae202.png?resize=980:* 1920w" src="https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/3kali-look-01-1487-pr2-65b3db81ae202.png?resize=980:*" class="css-0 ewdma7v0"/><div class="css-swqnqv ens2m4q2"><figcaption class="css-1am3yn9 e14ghf9c0"><span class="css-ohvpl5 eewc14j2">chrisean rose</span></figcaption><div class="css-a3hvk1 ens2m4q1"><em><a href="https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=74968X1525071&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fshoplapointe.com%2F%3Ftw_source%3Dgoogle%26tw_adid%3D680311268760%26tw_campaign%3D20487366230%26gad_source%3D1%26gclid%3DCjwKCAiAtt2tBhBDEiwALZuhAEtYjq88UNjmqiwFsBmRPjZDcRoCgFf4fDkbe3FEXcaJ6RjPx2Q2MBoC84sQAvD_BwE" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://shoplapointe.com/?tw_source=google&amp;tw_adid=680311268760&amp;tw_campaign=20487366230&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAtt2tBhBDEiwALZuhAEtYjq88UNjmqiwFsBmRPjZDcRoCgFf4fDkbe3FEXcaJ6RjPx2Q2MBoC84sQAvD_BwE" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="Lapointe" data-vars-ga-product-id="d22ea2ab-7ad3-4e47-91d4-1051e2f1a2f2" data-vars-ga-link-treatment="(not set) | (not set)" data-href="https://shoplapointe.com/?tw_source=google&amp;tw_adid=680311268760&amp;tw_campaign=20487366230&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAtt2tBhBDEiwALZuhAEtYjq88UNjmqiwFsBmRPjZDcRoCgFf4fDkbe3FEXcaJ6RjPx2Q2MBoC84sQAvD_BwE" data-product-url="https://shoplapointe.com/?tw_source=google&amp;tw_adid=680311268760&amp;tw_campaign=20487366230&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAtt2tBhBDEiwALZuhAEtYjq88UNjmqiwFsBmRPjZDcRoCgFf4fDkbe3FEXcaJ6RjPx2Q2MBoC84sQAvD_BwE" data-affiliate="true" data-affiliate-url="https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=74968X1525071&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fshoplapointe.com%2F%3Ftw_source%3Dgoogle%26tw_adid%3D680311268760%26tw_campaign%3D20487366230%26gad_source%3D1%26gclid%3DCjwKCAiAtt2tBhBDEiwALZuhAEtYjq88UNjmqiwFsBmRPjZDcRoCgFf4fDkbe3FEXcaJ6RjPx2Q2MBoC84sQAvD_BwE" data-affiliate-network="{}" data-vars-ga-product-price="$0.00" data-vars-ga-product-retailer-id="04978d13-1204-4dae-87a5-02865c860929" class="body-link product-links css-1xhj8kb e1rq56bv0">Lapointe</a> coat. <a href="https://www.mattiacielo.com/" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://www.mattiacielo.com/" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="Mattia Cielo" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">Mattia Cielo</a> earrings. <a href="https://uniformobject.com/" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-link="https://uniformobject.com/" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlink" data-vars-ga-call-to-action="Uniform Object" class="body-link css-1xhj8kb e1k3dme10">Uniform Object</a> ring. </em></div></div></div></div></section><p data-journey-content="true" data-node-id="19" class="css-1nd4gv7 e1k3dme10"><strong></strong></p><section data-embed="loop" data-lazy-id="P0-13" data-node-id="20" class="embed"><div class="css-1virogq ef2zpa80"><div class="align-center size-large embed ef2zpa81 css-1e3dj7m eu8kek24"><div class="__resp-container css-5mi43p e6inl0f0"><img src="https://media.hearstapps.com/loop/kali-65b823814eaa7.mp4/poster.jpg" alt="Image no longer available" title="Image no longer available" width="100%" height="auto" decoding="async" fetchPriority="high"/></div></div></div></section><p data-journey-content="true" data-node-id="21" class="css-1nd4gv7 e1k3dme10">She also hints at a joint project with Don. “It’s always nice to get his opinion because he’s, like, an OG Kuchi himself,” she says, referencing the name of her fandom. 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Sure, she came up through RB, her music’s airy tones and deep basses, her voice’s lower notes and whistle tones, enough to make listeners feel like they’re floating. But her style wasn’t ever only that. It also moved the genre forward with the use of synthesizers, unexpected instruments like harps, and voice-layering and reverb that make it sound like an entire choir is performing instead of just her. Her real fans—who now number in the tens of millions—knew the “niche” thing was BS, of course. They’ve always loved her for her sultry voice and many collabs with artists like Kaytranada (their song “10%” won a Best Dance Recording Grammy). And those who weren’t already devoted came fully on board after “Telepatía,” Kali’s 2020 hit single that proved she could do it all in two different languages—Spanish and English—at the same time.“What is authentic to me is to express all the different pieces of myself and all the genres that I love, the music that I love, and the culture that I love,” she says. That’s evident on “Labios Mordidos,” the single she released earlier this year with fellow Colombian superstar Karol G. The can’t-help-but-move-your-hips-to-it pop banger has already gained 54 million combined streams on YouTube and Spotify, giving Kali serious bragging rights. Adding to those rights: two songs in the Spotify Billions Club, which, let’s face it, most artists have a hard time accomplishing in one language.Other people in Kali’s position might use this success as a reason to take it easy. Kali used it as a chance to do something different (yet again) with her fourth album, Orquídeas (out now). On “Muñekita,” she pays homage to Dominican dancehall music by creating the ultimate ass-shaking song. Two tracks later, “Te Mata” shows her taking on a Spanish bolero that feels a lot like a powerful breakup tango (if such a thing existed, which it does now, thanks to Kali).This time around, everyone is taking notice of how very non-niche she is. Although not always in a positive way: Recent Instagram comments from older fans implore her to “go back to her old sound.” It’s criticism Kali has heard before, and she’s dealt with worse through years of navigating the industry as a crossover artist. Glaringly, there was the infamous 2021 interview in which a reporter told Kali he knew “all about that Spanglish” because of his Mexican husband and then proceeded to mispronounce the name of one of her songs. “It was a microaggression. So many people told me I handled that really well. Yes, it was annoying, but it almost didn’t affect me because I’m so used to it,” she says now, noting all the times her family has been discriminated against and how she has always felt both a bit too American in Colombia and too Colombian in the United States. “He didn’t have ill will or anything,” she continues. “He was just attempting to bridge the gap between him and I. It’s just very strange to have your ethnicity, essentially, be a genre.” It does grate on her, she says, but she sees situations like this as a reminder of her responsibility to build bridges of her own, particularly by working with more artists and giving them the chance to shine in new and exciting ways. Case in point: her collaboration with Mexican singer Peso Pluma, who, when given various tracks to choose from on Orquídeas, decided to do something other than his usual regional Mexican sound and chose “Igual Que un Ángel,” a more pop and RB track, instead. Kali is also focused on moving forward. 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